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Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie vs Irish Setter

A side-by-side comparison to help you find the right breed for your lifestyle.

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie breed photo

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie

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The Anglo-Français de Petit Vénerie is a versatile and energetic hunting dog breed, known for its exceptional scent-tracking abilities and friendly disposition. Originating from France, this medium-sized hound is a cross between English and French hunting dogs, making it well-suited for tracking small game in packs.

Size

Medium

Energy

High

Lifespan

11-13 years yrs

Height

48-56 cm cm

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Irish Setter breed photo

Irish Setter

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The Irish Setter is a friendly and energetic breed known for its striking red coat and graceful, athletic build. Renowned for their intelligence and gentle temperament, these dogs make excellent family companions and excel in various canine sports and activities.

Size

Large

Energy

High

Lifespan

11-15 years yrs

Height

N/A cm

Quick Comparison

TraitAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Energy
Trainability
Grooming Needs
Family Friendly
Independence

Key Characteristics

Good with Kids
Good with Dogs
Good with Cats
Hypoallergenic
Apartment Friendly
First-Time Owner OK
DetailAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
SizeMediumLarge
Energy LevelHighHigh
GroomingHighHigh
TrainabilitychallengingModerate
Barking LevelHighMedium
Shedding LevelMediumMedium
Chew strengthModerateModerate
HousingYardYard

Owner Fit & Decision Guide

Owner Match

TraitAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Experience LevelExperiencedBeginner
First-Time Owner
Ideal OwnerActive individual or family who can provide adequate exercise and training for a Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie.Active individual or family who can provide adequate exercise and training for a Irish Setter.

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie Dealbreakers

  • Cannot meet 90-120 min daily exercise
  • Cannot commit to grooming needs

Irish Setter Dealbreakers

  • Cannot meet 90-120 min daily exercise
  • Cannot commit to grooming needs

Surrender Risk

FactorAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Risk LevelMediumMedium
Primary ReasonsUnderestimated exercise needs, Behavioral challenges, Cost of careUnderestimated exercise needs, Behavioral challenges, Cost of care

Temperament & Personality

Behavior Comparison

TraitAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Prey Drive
Watchdog Ability
Stranger Friendly
Drool Level
Wanderlust

Vocalization

TraitAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Barking LevelHighMedium
Howling Tendency
Whining TendencyLowLow
Separation Vocalization
Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie bark triggers
StrangersDoorbellsOther dogs
Irish Setter bark triggers
StrangersDoorbellsOther dogs

Safety & Reliability

TraitAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Escape Artist
Dog Park Suitable
Off-Leash Reliable
Small Animal Safe
Leash Reactivity
Resource Guarding RiskLowLow

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie Social Traits

Velcro Dog
One Person Dog
Handling ToleranceMedium
Stranger Wariness

Moderate

With Other Dogs

Generally friendly

Irish Setter Social Traits

Velcro Dog
One Person Dog
Handling ToleranceMedium
Stranger Wariness

Low

With Other Dogs

Generally friendly

Training

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie

MethodPositive reinforcement
Challenges
you.
Tips
  • ** Positive reinforcement is the only viable path. Harsh methods will cause them to shut down or avoid you.

Irish Setter

MethodPositive reinforcement
Challenges
s:** Their "birdiness" means they look up and out, often ignoring the handler if the environment is more interesting. Building engagement in low-distraction environments is crucial before attempting outdoor training [cite: 17].
Tips
  • ** Positive reinforcement is essential. They work for engagement and fun, not just duty.

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie Considerations

dealbreakerThe "Petite" Misconception

The most dangerous misunderstanding about this breed is its name. "Petite Vénerie" refers to the *game* they hunt (small game like hare, fox, and pheasant), . This is a medium-sized, athletic hound (48–56 cm tall) with significant stamina, not a lap dog.

challengeInescapable Wanderlust

This breed scores a 5/5 on wanderlust. If they catch a scent, they will follow it regardless of traffic, fences, or your commands. They cannot be trusted off-leash in unfenced areas.

challengeSeparation Distress

Bred to live and work in packs, these dogs suffer profound isolation distress if left alone. They are not solitary creatures; a single Anglo-Français left in an apartment while the owner works 9-5 will likely become destructive and vocal.

challengeThe "Voice"

They do not just bark; they bay. This deep, carrying sound is music to a hunter's ears but a nightmare for neighbors. They are vocal dogs that communicate excitement and frustration loudly.

Irish Setter Considerations

challengeSevere Separation Anxiety

This is a "Velcro" breed in the truest sense. Irish Setters were bred to work in tandem with humans and possess a profound need for companionship. They do not tolerate isolation well. Left alone for standard workdays (8+ hours), they frequently develop destructive behaviors (chewing drywall, digging) and distress vocalization (howling/barking).

challengeThe "Peter Pan" Syndrome

Irish Setters are notoriously slow to mature. While physically full-grown by 12-18 months, their mental maturity often lags until age 3 or 4. Owners must be prepared for a large, powerful dog that retains the impulse control and chaotic energy of a 4-month-old puppy for several years.

challengeHigh Prey Drive

As a bird dog, their instinct to scan the horizon and chase is hardwired. They are generally not safe around birds, and their recall can vanish instantly if a visual trigger (squirrel, bird, leaf) activates their prey drive. This makes off-leash reliability in unfenced areas a significant challenge.

Multi-Species Compatibility

SpeciesAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
With CatsCaution - may chaseCaution - may chase
Small MammalsSupervision requiredSupervision required
Birds / ReptilesCaution advisedCaution advised

Advanced Behavior

TraitAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Predatory Sequence RiskMediumMedium
BiddabilityLowLow
Noise SensitivityLowLow
Territorial Barking
Same-Sex Aggression Onset18 months18 months

First Year & Life Stages

First Year Challenges

ChallengeAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Puppy Difficulty
Destructive Phase6-186-18
House TrainingChallengingModerate
Crate TrainingMediumMedium
Adolescent Regression

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie: Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie puppies require consistent training and patience.

Irish Setter: Irish Setter puppies require consistent training and patience.

Life Stages Timeline

StageAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Puppy Phase12 months12 months
Adolescence6-186-18
Adult Years2-82-8
Senior Onset~8 years~8 years
Peak Energy Age1-3 years1-3 years

Size & Physical Characteristics

Physical Stats

MeasurementAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Height48-56 cm cmN/A cm
WeightNot enough data yetNot enough data yet
Size CategoryMediumLarge
Lifespan

11–13 years

11–15 years

Litter Size4-84-8

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie Coat

Type double
Length Medium
Texture straight
Colors
Various

Irish Setter Coat

Type double
Length Medium
Texture straight
Colors
Various

Lineage & Origin

DetailAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Original PurposeThe breed was synthesized in France (specifically the 1950s, standardized in 1978) to create a "medisetting (crouching) game birds on the moors
OriginN/Ain Ireland in the 18th century

Breeding Details

DetailAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
C-Section RateVariesVaries
Whelping DifficultyMediumMedium
Puppy Mortality RateLowLow

Physical Risks

RiskAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Bloat / GDV RiskLowLow
Slippery Floor RiskLowLow
Min Fence Height1.5m1.5m
Dig / Escape RiskLowLow

Health & Common Conditions

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie Health Issues

Otitis ExternaEar Infections
Hip Dysplasia15-20% prevalence
Field Injurieslacerations, torn nails, tail injuries
Gastric Dilatation-VolvulusBloat

Irish Setter Health Issues

Gastric Dilatation-Volvulus (Bloat): 24% lifetime risk
Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA): carrier rate for rcd4 estimated at 30-40%
Hip Dysplasia: prevalence of approximately 11.7%
Hypothyroidism: prevalence of 12.6%
Canine Leukocyte Adhesion Deficiency (CLAD): fatal immunodeficiency disorder

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie Suggested Tests

  • Primary Lens Luxation (PLL)
  • Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA)

Irish Setter Suggested Tests

  • CLAD (DNA)
  • PRA (rcd1 & rcd4 DNA)
  • OFA/PennHIP clearances for hips and thyroid

Health Risk Overview

Risk FactorAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Cancer RiskMediumMedium
Cardiac RiskLowLow
Neurological RiskLowLow
CCL/ACL Tear RiskLowLow
Vet Burden TierMediumMedium

Sensitivities & Allergies

SensitivityAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Skin Allergies
Environmental Allergies
Stomach SensitivityLowLow
Food Allergies

Health Maintenance

Care ItemAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Nail Growth RateNormalNormal
Eye Care NeedsLowLow
Anal Gland IssuesOccasionalOccasional

Senior Care & Aging

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie Senior Care

Common Senior Issues

  • Arthritis
  • Vision decline
  • Cognitive changes
Mobility Aid LikelihoodMedium
QoL Decline Age~10 years
End of Life ComplexityMedium

Senior care varies by individual health.

Irish Setter Senior Care

Common Senior Issues

  • Arthritis
  • Vision decline
  • Cognitive changes
Mobility Aid LikelihoodMedium
QoL Decline Age~10 years
End of Life ComplexityMedium

Senior care varies by individual health.

Grooming & Care

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie

high maintenance
Coat Typedouble
Coat Lengthmedium
Coat Texturestraight
Shedding LevelMedium
Seasonal SheddingMedium
Ear Cleaningweekly
Dental RiskMedium
Obesity Prone
Winter Gear Needed
Summer Restrictions
Paw Protection
Odor LevelModerate
Tactile FeelVaries by coat type
Colors
Various

Irish Setter

high maintenance
Coat Typedouble
Coat Lengthmedium
Coat Texturestraight
Shedding LevelMedium
Seasonal SheddingMedium
Ear Cleaningweekly
Dental RiskMedium
Obesity Prone
Winter Gear Needed
Summer Restrictions
Paw Protection
Odor LevelModerate
Tactile FeelVaries by coat type
Colors
Various

Lifestyle Compatibility

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie Daily Life

Exercise Needs30 min/day
Alone TimeUp to 4h
Mental StimulationHigh
ApartmentChallenging - needs space
Work from HomeSuitable with adequate exercise
Weekend WarriorSuitable
HousingYard
Barking LevelHigh
First-Time Owner
Exercise Types
WalkingPlayTraining
NighttimeSleeps well when exercised
Food MotivationMedium

Irish Setter Daily Life

Exercise Needs60-90 min/day
Alone TimeUp to 4h
Mental StimulationHigh
ApartmentChallenging - needs space
Work from HomeSuitable with adequate exercise
Weekend WarriorSuitable
HousingYard
Barking LevelMedium
First-Time Owner
Exercise Types
WalkingPlayTraining
NighttimeSleeps well when exercised
Food MotivationMedium

Housing & Legal Restrictions

RestrictionAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
BSL Restricted
Common Rental Ban
Insurance Blacklist
Weight CategoryUnder 50lbsUnder 50lbs

Climate Tolerance

ClimateAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Heat Tolerance
Cold Tolerance
Water AffinityMediumHigh

Travel Compatibility

ActivityAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Car TravelGoodGood
Camping
Beach Friendly
Hiking Rating
Cabin Flight Eligible
Hotel Friendly Size

Niche Suitability

RoleAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Service DogLowLow
Therapy DogLowLow
Deep Pressure Therapy
Canicross / Bikejoring
Apartment Adaptable
Tactile / Sensory Friendly
Livestock Guardian
Medical AlertLowLow

Costs & Expenses

Upfront Costs

CostAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Purchase PriceN/AN/A
Initial Cost Range$1,000–$2,500$1,000–$2,500
Cost Tier

Ongoing Costs

CostAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Monthly Range$80–$160$140–$220
Yearly Range$960–$1,920$1,680–$2,640
Food / MonthN/A$80-120
Insurance / MonthN/A$60-100
Grooming / SessionN/A$70-100
Vet Routine / Year$200-400$300-600
Monthly Cost Tier

Anglo-Français de Petite Vénerie Lifetime Cost

N/A

Irish Setter Lifetime Cost

N/A

Quirks & Fun Facts

Daily Quirks

QuirkAnglo-Français de Petite VénerieIrish Setter
Snoring
FlatulenceOccasionalOccasional
Slobber LevelLowLow
Smell When WetModerateModerate
Zoomies FrequencyOccasionalOccasional
Counter Surfing
Digging TendencyLowLow

Frequently Asked Questions

Yes, Anglo-Français de Petite Véneries can make good family dogs with proper training and socialization. They form strong bonds with their family members.
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