Bernese Mountain Dog vs English Setter
A side-by-side comparison to help you find the right breed for your lifestyle.
Bernese Mountain Dog
The Bernese Mountain Dog is a large, sturdy breed known for its striking tricolor coat, gentle temperament, and strong working abilities, originally bred in the Swiss Alps to herd cattle and pull carts. Their friendly and affectionate nature makes them excellent family companions.
Extra Large
Medium
7-8 years yrs
N/A
English Setter
Also known as: Laverack Setter, Llewellin Setter
The English Setter is a graceful and elegant gun dog known for its distinctive feathered coat and gentle demeanor. Often called the 'gentleman of the dog world,' they combine athletic prowess with a sweet, affectionate temperament that makes them exceptional family companions for active households.
Large
High
11-13 yrs
61-69 cm
Quick Comparison
| Trait | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Energy | ||
| Trainability | ||
| Grooming Needs | ||
| Family Friendly | ||
| Independence |
Key Characteristics
| Good with Kids | ||
| Good with Dogs | ||
| Good with Cats | ||
| Hypoallergenic | ||
| Apartment Friendly | ||
| First-Time Owner OK |
| Detail | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Size | Extra Large | Large |
| Energy Level | Medium | High |
| Grooming | High | High |
| Trainability | Easy | Moderate |
| Barking Level | Medium | Medium |
| Shedding Level | High | High |
| Chew strength | Moderate | Moderate |
| Housing | Yard | Yard |
Owner Fit & Decision Guide
Owner Match
| Trait | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Experience Level | Beginner | Intermediate |
| First-Time Owner | ||
| Ideal Owner | Active individual or family who can provide adequate exercise and training for a Bernese Mountain Dog. | Hikers, runners, hunters, or active families with a large fenced yard. Someone who works from home or can provide companionship. Understanding they are getting a hunting dog, not a couch ornament. |
Bernese Mountain Dog Dealbreakers
- Cannot meet 45-60 min daily exercise
- Cannot tolerate heavy shedding
English Setter Dealbreakers
- No fenced yard - dealing with a Setter without secure fencing is a part-time job
- Work long hours away from home - separation anxiety is significant
- Cannot commit to 60-90 min daily exercise
- Fastidious housekeepers - mud, hair, and water drips are part of the package
Surrender Risk
| Factor | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Risk Level | Medium | Medium |
| Primary Reasons | Underestimated exercise needs, Behavioral challenges, Cost of care | Escaping - 'He won't stay in the yard', Too much energy for owner's lifestyle, Separation anxiety and barking when left alone |
Temperament & Personality
Behavior Comparison
| Trait | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Prey Drive | ||
| Watchdog Ability | ||
| Stranger Friendly | ||
| Drool Level | ||
| Wanderlust |
Vocalization
| Trait | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Barking Level | Medium | Medium |
| Howling Tendency | ||
| Whining Tendency | Low | Medium |
| Separation Vocalization |
Safety & Reliability
| Trait | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Escape Artist | ||
| Dog Park Suitable | ||
| Off-Leash Reliable | ||
| Small Animal Safe | ||
| Leash Reactivity | ||
| Resource Guarding Risk | Low | Low |
Bernese Mountain Dog Social Traits
Low
Generally friendly
English Setter Social Traits
Low
Low - generally excellent with other dogs and enjoy pack life. Same-sex aggression is rare.
Training
Bernese Mountain Dog
- ** Positive reinforcement is the only viable path. Berners are notoriously "soft" dogs; harsh corrections or yelling will cause them to shut down or become fearful [cite: 16].
English Setter
- They are 'soft' dogs - harsh corrections or yelling will cause them to shut down or become fearful
- Recall training must be proofed with high distractions - a long line is recommended until reliability is 100%
- Use high-value treats to compete with bird distractions
Bernese Mountain Dog Considerations
The BMD was bred to work closely alongside farmers in the Swiss Alps, pulling carts and driving cattle. This history has created a breed that is genetically wired to be near their humans constantly. They are not independent yard dogs; they are "shadows." Leaving a Berner alone for 8+ hours a day often results in severe distress, destructive chewing, and vocalization.
While affectionate, their desire for physical contact (leaning their 100lb body weight against your legs) can be a hazard for elderly owners or very small children, despite their gentle intent.
English Setter Considerations
English Setters are intensely social 'velcro' dogs that bond deeply with their humans. Left alone for 8+ hours without conditioning or companionship, they frequently develop severe anxiety manifesting as destructive chewing, house soiling, and persistent howling.
Their predatory drive is all-consuming. On walks, they may become deaf to commands if they catch a scent or spot a bird. Off-leash reliability in unfenced areas is nearly impossible for the average owner.
Bored or under-exercised Setters are notorious for testing perimeter security. Their athleticism allows them to jump moderate fences, and digging instincts can compromise fence lines if they see prey on the other side.
Multi-Species Compatibility
| Species | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| With Cats | Generally safe with proper introduction | Risky - while some can live with cats if raised together, the instinct to chase is hardwired. Generally not safe. |
| Small Mammals | Supervision required | Caution required - rabbits and hamsters trigger the chase instinct. Supervision mandatory. |
| Birds / Reptiles | Caution advised | Unsafe - birds are their ancestral prey. Will fixate on bird cages causing stress to both animals. |
Advanced Behavior
| Trait | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Predatory Sequence Risk | Medium | Arrested |
| Biddability | High | High |
| Noise Sensitivity | Low | Low |
| Territorial Barking | ||
| Same-Sex Aggression Onset | 18 months | N/A |
English Setter: Predatory sequence is Orient -> Eye -> Stalk -> Chase -> Point. The 'Grab-Bite' and 'Kill-Bite' are usually inhibited, meaning they are less dangerous to prey than terriers, but the chase drive is just as strong. They want to please but are easily distracted by birds.
First Year & Life Stages
First Year Challenges
| Challenge | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Puppy Difficulty | ||
| Destructive Phase | 6-18 | 7-12 |
| House Training | Moderate | Medium |
| Crate Training | Medium | High |
| Adolescent Regression |
Bernese Mountain Dog: Bernese Mountain Dog puppies require consistent training and patience.
English Setter: Setter puppies combine high energy with a distractible hunting brain. House training can be slower than average (sensitive to surface textures). Very mouthy and prone to chewing furniture if bored. Around 8-10 months, they often 'forget' recall - this is when they're most likely to run off after a bird.
Life Stages Timeline
| Stage | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Puppy Phase | 12 months | 12 months |
| Adolescence | 6-18 | 12-24 |
| Adult Years | 2-8 | 2-8 |
| Senior Onset | ~8 years | ~9 years |
| Peak Energy Age | 1-3 years | 1-3 years |
Size & Physical Characteristics
Physical Stats
| Measurement | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Height | N/A | 61-69 cm |
| Weight | Not enough data yet | Not enough data yet |
| Size Category | Extra Large | Large |
| Lifespan | 7–8 years | 11–13 years |
| Litter Size | 4-8 | 6-8 |
Bernese Mountain Dog Coat
English Setter Coat
Lineage & Origin
| Detail | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Original Purpose | Originating in the canton of Bern, Switzerland, these dogs were the "poor man's horse | Locating and setting (pointing) game birds on English moors for net and gun hunters |
| Origin | in the canton of Bern | England, 15th-17th century |
Breeding Details
| Detail | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| C-Section Rate | Varies | Low |
| Whelping Difficulty | Medium | Easy |
| Puppy Mortality Rate | Low | Low |
Physical Risks
| Risk | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Bloat / GDV Risk | Low | High |
| Slippery Floor Risk | Low | Medium |
| Min Fence Height | 1.5m | 1.5m |
| Dig / Escape Risk | Low | Medium |
Health & Common Conditions
Bernese Mountain Dog Health Issues
English Setter Health Issues
Bernese Mountain Dog Suggested Tests
- Genetic risk test (Antagene) for Histiocytic Sarcoma
- CHIC numbers including hips, elbows, eyes (CERF), cardiac, and Von Willebrand’s Disease (vWD)
- DNA testing of parents for Degenerative Myelopathy
- Prophylactic gastropexy (stomach tacking) for Bloat
English Setter Suggested Tests
- BAER (Brainstem Auditory Evoked Response) test for deafness
- Hip Evaluation (OFA or PennHIP)
- Thyroid Evaluation
- Elbow Evaluation
Health Risk Overview
| Risk Factor | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Cancer Risk | Medium | Medium |
| Cardiac Risk | Low | Low |
| Neurological Risk | Low | Low |
| CCL/ACL Tear Risk | Low | Medium |
| Vet Burden Tier | Medium | Medium |
Sensitivities & Allergies
| Sensitivity | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Skin Allergies | ||
| Environmental Allergies | ||
| Stomach Sensitivity | Low | Low |
| Food Allergies | Grain sensitivities possible |
Health Maintenance
| Care Item | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Nail Growth Rate | Normal | Normal |
| Eye Care Needs | Low | Low |
| Anal Gland Issues | Occasional | Rare |
Senior Care & Aging
Bernese Mountain Dog Senior Care
Common Senior Issues
- Arthritis
- Vision decline
- Cognitive changes
Senior care varies by individual health.
English Setter Senior Care
Common Senior Issues
- Arthritis/joint stiffness
- Cancer (hemangiosarcoma, lymphoma)
- Hearing loss
- Mobility issues
Quality of life often remains good until late. Cancer and mobility issues are the common end-of-life factors. Some reach 14-15 years.
Grooming & Care
Bernese Mountain Dog
high maintenanceEnglish Setter
high maintenanceLifestyle Compatibility
Bernese Mountain Dog Daily Life
English Setter Daily Life
Housing & Legal Restrictions
| Restriction | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| BSL Restricted | ||
| Common Rental Ban | ||
| Insurance Blacklist | ||
| Weight Category | Under 50lbs | Over 50lbs |
Climate Tolerance
| Climate | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Heat Tolerance | ||
| Cold Tolerance | ||
| Water Affinity | Medium | High |
Travel Compatibility
| Activity | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Car Travel | Good | Good |
| Camping | ||
| Beach Friendly | ||
| Hiking Rating | ||
| Cabin Flight Eligible | ||
| Hotel Friendly Size |
Niche Suitability
| Role | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Service Dog | High | Low |
| Therapy Dog | Low | Medium |
| Deep Pressure Therapy | ||
| Canicross / Bikejoring | ||
| Apartment Adaptable | ||
| Tactile / Sensory Friendly | ||
| Livestock Guardian | ||
| Medical Alert | Low | Low |
Costs & Expenses
Upfront Costs
| Cost | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Purchase Price | N/A | $1,000-1,500 |
| Initial Cost Range | $1,000–$2,500 | $1,300–$2,000 |
| Cost Tier |
Ongoing Costs
| Cost | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Monthly Range | $180–$300 | $180–$275 |
| Yearly Range | $2,160–$3,600 | $2,160–$3,300 |
| Food / Month | $100-150 | $75-125 |
| Insurance / Month | $80-150 | $40-70 |
| Grooming / Session | $100-150 | $65-100 |
| Vet Routine / Year | $50-100 | $600-960 |
| Monthly Cost Tier |
Bernese Mountain Dog Lifetime Cost
N/A
English Setter Lifetime Cost
$25,000-45,000
Quirks & Fun Facts
Daily Quirks
| Quirk | Bernese Mountain Dog | English Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Snoring | ||
| Flatulence | Occasional | Rare |
| Slobber Level | Low | Moderate |
| Smell When Wet | Moderate | Strong |
| Zoomies Frequency | Occasional | Daily |
| Counter Surfing | ||
| Digging Tendency | Low | Medium |
English Setter Quirks
Setter Sprawl
Famous for sleeping in bizarre, contorted positions on furniture
Water Dripper
Loose 'flews' (lips) that drip water after drinking and leave slime on your pants after a nudge
Velcro Attachment
Will follow you to the bathroom - they need to be integrated into family life, not left as backyard dogs
The Off Switch
Indoors, a well-exercised Setter is a 'rug dog' - calm, quiet, and happy to sleep. Not hyperactive pacers like some herding breeds.
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