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Curly Coated Retriever vs Irish Setter

A side-by-side comparison to help you find the right breed for your lifestyle.

Curly Coated Retriever breed photo

Curly Coated Retriever

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The Curly Coated Retriever is a versatile and intelligent dog breed known for its distinctive tight, water-resistant curls and its prowess in retrieving both on land and in water. Originally bred in England for hunting and retrieving game, this breed is also celebrated for its friendly and confident demeanor, making it a great companion for active families.

Size

Large

Energy

High

Lifespan

10-12 yrs

Height

N/A

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Irish Setter breed photo

Irish Setter

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The Irish Setter is a friendly and energetic breed known for its striking red coat and graceful, athletic build. Renowned for their intelligence and gentle temperament, these dogs make excellent family companions and excel in various canine sports and activities.

Size

Large

Energy

High

Lifespan

11-15 years yrs

Height

N/A cm

Quick Comparison

TraitCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Energy
Trainability
Grooming Needs
Family Friendly
Independence

Key Characteristics

Good with Kids
Good with Dogs
Good with Cats
Hypoallergenic
Apartment Friendly
First-Time Owner OK
DetailCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
SizeLargeLarge
Energy LevelHighHigh
GroomingLowHigh
TrainabilitychallengingModerate
Barking LevelHighMedium
Shedding LevelMediumMedium
Chew strengthModerateModerate
HousingYardYard

Owner Fit & Decision Guide

Owner Match

TraitCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Experience LevelExperiencedBeginner
First-Time Owner
Ideal OwnerActive individual or family who can provide adequate exercise and training for a Curly Coated Retriever.Active individual or family who can provide adequate exercise and training for a Irish Setter.

Curly Coated Retriever Dealbreakers

  • Cannot meet 90-120 min daily exercise
  • Cannot commit to grooming needs

Irish Setter Dealbreakers

  • Cannot meet 90-120 min daily exercise
  • Cannot commit to grooming needs

Surrender Risk

FactorCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Risk LevelMediumMedium
Primary ReasonsUnderestimated exercise needs, Behavioral challenges, Cost of careUnderestimated exercise needs, Behavioral challenges, Cost of care

Temperament & Personality

Behavior Comparison

TraitCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Prey Drive
Watchdog Ability
Stranger Friendly
Drool Level
Wanderlust

Vocalization

TraitCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Barking LevelHighMedium
Howling Tendency
Whining TendencyLowLow
Separation Vocalization
Curly Coated Retriever bark triggers
StrangersDoorbellsOther dogs
Irish Setter bark triggers
StrangersDoorbellsOther dogs

Safety & Reliability

TraitCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Escape Artist
Dog Park Suitable
Off-Leash Reliable
Small Animal Safe
Leash Reactivity
Resource Guarding RiskLowLow

Curly Coated Retriever Social Traits

Velcro Dog
One Person Dog
Handling ToleranceMedium
Stranger Wariness

Moderate

With Other Dogs

Generally friendly

Irish Setter Social Traits

Velcro Dog
One Person Dog
Handling ToleranceMedium
Stranger Wariness

Low

With Other Dogs

Generally friendly

Training

Curly Coated Retriever

MethodFirm but fair correction-based
Challenges
Requires consistent, patient training
Tips
  • Keep training sessions short and varied

Irish Setter

MethodPositive reinforcement
Challenges
s:** Their "birdiness" means they look up and out, often ignoring the handler if the environment is more interesting. Building engagement in low-distraction environments is crucial before attempting outdoor training [cite: 17].
Tips
  • ** Positive reinforcement is essential. They work for engagement and fun, not just duty.

Curly Coated Retriever Considerations

challengeAloofness & Guarding

If you want a dog that loves every stranger at the brewery, do not get a Curly. They are naturally wary of strangers and will patrol their territory. While not aggressive without cause, they are serious watchdogs who reserve their affection for their inner circle.

challenge"Wickedly Smart" Independence

This breed does not obey commands simply because you asked. They assess the value of the request. They are known to open doors, gates, and cabinets. Their intelligence is manipulative; they will find the loophole in your rules.

challengeSlow Maturation

A Curly may remain a "puppy" mentally for 3+ years. Owners expecting a settled adult dog by age 2 will be frustrated by the prolonged adolescence and testing of boundaries.

Irish Setter Considerations

challengeSevere Separation Anxiety

This is a "Velcro" breed in the truest sense. Irish Setters were bred to work in tandem with humans and possess a profound need for companionship. They do not tolerate isolation well. Left alone for standard workdays (8+ hours), they frequently develop destructive behaviors (chewing drywall, digging) and distress vocalization (howling/barking).

challengeThe "Peter Pan" Syndrome

Irish Setters are notoriously slow to mature. While physically full-grown by 12-18 months, their mental maturity often lags until age 3 or 4. Owners must be prepared for a large, powerful dog that retains the impulse control and chaotic energy of a 4-month-old puppy for several years.

challengeHigh Prey Drive

As a bird dog, their instinct to scan the horizon and chase is hardwired. They are generally not safe around birds, and their recall can vanish instantly if a visual trigger (squirrel, bird, leaf) activates their prey drive. This makes off-leash reliability in unfenced areas a significant challenge.

Multi-Species Compatibility

SpeciesCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
With CatsGenerally safe with proper introductionCaution - may chase
Small MammalsSupervision requiredSupervision required
Birds / ReptilesCaution advisedCaution advised

Advanced Behavior

TraitCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Predatory Sequence RiskMediumMedium
BiddabilityLowLow
Noise SensitivityLowLow
Territorial Barking
Same-Sex Aggression Onset18 months18 months

First Year & Life Stages

First Year Challenges

ChallengeCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Puppy Difficulty
Destructive Phase6-246-18
House TrainingModerateModerate
Crate TrainingMediumMedium
Adolescent Regression

Curly Coated Retriever: Curly Coated Retriever puppies require consistent training and patience.

Irish Setter: Irish Setter puppies require consistent training and patience.

Life Stages Timeline

StageCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Puppy Phase12 months12 months
Adolescence6-186-18
Adult Years2-82-8
Senior Onset~8 years~8 years
Peak Energy Age1-3 years1-3 years

Size & Physical Characteristics

Physical Stats

MeasurementCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
HeightN/AN/A cm
WeightNot enough data yetNot enough data yet
Size CategoryLargeLarge
Lifespan

10–12 years

11–15 years

Litter Size4-84-8

Curly Coated Retriever Coat

Type double
Length Medium
Texture straight
Colors
Various

Irish Setter Coat

Type double
Length Medium
Texture straight
Colors
Various

Lineage & Origin

DetailCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Original PurposeThe Curly Coated Retriever is likely the oldest of the retriever breeds, established in England as esetting (crouching) game birds on the moors
OriginN/Ain Ireland in the 18th century

Breeding Details

DetailCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
C-Section RateVariesVaries
Whelping DifficultyMediumMedium
Puppy Mortality RateLowLow

Physical Risks

RiskCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Bloat / GDV RiskLowLow
Slippery Floor RiskLowLow
Min Fence Height1.5m1.5m
Dig / Escape RiskLowLow

Health & Common Conditions

Curly Coated Retriever Health Issues

Glycogen Storage Disease IIIa (GSD IIIa): breed-specific
Cancer (Hemangiosarcoma, Osteosarcoma, Mast Cell): High prevalence
Gastric Dilatation-Volvulus (Bloat): High risk
Exercise Induced Collapse (EIC): Common mutation
Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA): Moderate prevalence

Irish Setter Health Issues

Gastric Dilatation-Volvulus (Bloat): 24% lifetime risk
Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA): carrier rate for rcd4 estimated at 30-40%
Hip Dysplasia: prevalence of approximately 11.7%
Hypothyroidism: prevalence of 12.6%
Canine Leukocyte Adhesion Deficiency (CLAD): fatal immunodeficiency disorder

Curly Coated Retriever Suggested Tests

  • DNA testing for GSD IIIa
  • Regular veterinary screenings for cancer
  • Gastropexy (stomach tacking) for Bloat
  • DNA testing for EIC
  • Annual ophthalmologist evaluations (CAER) for PRA
  • Hip and Elbow Dysplasia screening (BVA scoring)

Irish Setter Suggested Tests

  • CLAD (DNA)
  • PRA (rcd1 & rcd4 DNA)
  • OFA/PennHIP clearances for hips and thyroid

Health Risk Overview

Risk FactorCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Cancer RiskMediumMedium
Cardiac RiskLowLow
Neurological RiskLowLow
CCL/ACL Tear RiskLowLow
Vet Burden TierMediumMedium

Sensitivities & Allergies

SensitivityCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Skin Allergies
Environmental Allergies
Stomach SensitivityLowLow
Food Allergies

Health Maintenance

Care ItemCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Nail Growth RateNormalNormal
Eye Care NeedsLowLow
Anal Gland IssuesOccasionalOccasional

Senior Care & Aging

Curly Coated Retriever Senior Care

Common Senior Issues

  • Arthritis
  • Vision decline
  • Cognitive changes
Mobility Aid LikelihoodMedium
QoL Decline Age~10 years
End of Life ComplexityMedium

Senior care varies by individual health.

Irish Setter Senior Care

Common Senior Issues

  • Arthritis
  • Vision decline
  • Cognitive changes
Mobility Aid LikelihoodMedium
QoL Decline Age~10 years
End of Life ComplexityMedium

Senior care varies by individual health.

Grooming & Care

Curly Coated Retriever

low maintenance
Coat Typedouble
Coat Lengthmedium
Coat Texturestraight
Shedding LevelMedium
Seasonal SheddingMedium
Ear Cleaningweekly
Dental RiskMedium
Obesity Prone
Winter Gear Needed
Summer Restrictions
Paw Protection
Odor LevelModerate
Tactile FeelVaries by coat type
Colors
Various

Irish Setter

high maintenance
Coat Typedouble
Coat Lengthmedium
Coat Texturestraight
Shedding LevelMedium
Seasonal SheddingMedium
Ear Cleaningweekly
Dental RiskMedium
Obesity Prone
Winter Gear Needed
Summer Restrictions
Paw Protection
Odor LevelModerate
Tactile FeelVaries by coat type
Colors
Various

Lifestyle Compatibility

Curly Coated Retriever Daily Life

Exercise Needs30 min/day
Alone TimeUp to 4h
Mental StimulationHigh
ApartmentChallenging - needs space
Work from HomeSuitable with adequate exercise
Weekend WarriorSuitable
HousingYard
Barking LevelHigh
First-Time Owner
Exercise Types
WalkingPlayTraining
NighttimeSleeps well when exercised
Food MotivationMedium

Irish Setter Daily Life

Exercise Needs60-90 min/day
Alone TimeUp to 4h
Mental StimulationHigh
ApartmentChallenging - needs space
Work from HomeSuitable with adequate exercise
Weekend WarriorSuitable
HousingYard
Barking LevelMedium
First-Time Owner
Exercise Types
WalkingPlayTraining
NighttimeSleeps well when exercised
Food MotivationMedium

Housing & Legal Restrictions

RestrictionCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
BSL Restricted
Common Rental Ban
Insurance Blacklist
Weight CategoryUnder 50lbsUnder 50lbs

Climate Tolerance

ClimateCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Heat Tolerance
Cold Tolerance
Water AffinityMediumHigh

Travel Compatibility

ActivityCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Car TravelGoodGood
Camping
Beach Friendly
Hiking Rating
Cabin Flight Eligible
Hotel Friendly Size

Niche Suitability

RoleCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Service DogLowLow
Therapy DogLowLow
Deep Pressure Therapy
Canicross / Bikejoring
Apartment Adaptable
Tactile / Sensory Friendly
Livestock Guardian
Medical AlertLowLow

Costs & Expenses

Upfront Costs

CostCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Purchase PriceN/AN/A
Initial Cost Range$1,000–$2,500$1,000–$2,500
Cost Tier

Ongoing Costs

CostCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Monthly Range$120–$190$140–$220
Yearly Range$1,440–$2,280$1,680–$2,640
Food / Month$70-100$80-120
Insurance / Month$50-90$60-100
Grooming / Session$0-50$70-100
Vet Routine / YearN/A$300-600
Monthly Cost Tier

Curly Coated Retriever Lifetime Cost

N/A

Irish Setter Lifetime Cost

N/A

Quirks & Fun Facts

Daily Quirks

QuirkCurly Coated RetrieverIrish Setter
Snoring
FlatulenceOccasionalOccasional
Slobber LevelLowLow
Smell When WetModerateModerate
Zoomies FrequencyOccasionalOccasional
Counter Surfing
Digging TendencyLowLow

Frequently Asked Questions

Yes, Curly Coated Retrievers can make good family dogs with proper training and socialization. They form strong bonds with their family members.
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