Gordon Setter vs Portuguese Water Dog
A side-by-side comparison to help you find the right breed for your lifestyle.
Gordon Setter
The Gordon Setter is a large, athletic dog breed known for its striking black and tan coat and its origins as a skilled bird-hunting companion in Scotland. Renowned for their intelligence, loyalty, and affectionate nature, Gordon Setters make excellent family pets and thrive in active households.
Large
High
10-12 yrs
N/A
Portuguese Water Dog
Also known as: PWD, Portie, Cão de Água Português, Obama Dog
The Portuguese Water Dog (PWD) is a highly energetic and intelligent breed known for its curly, hypoallergenic coat and exceptional swimming abilities. Originally bred to work alongside Portuguese fishermen—herding fish into nets, retrieving lost tackle, and swimming messages between boats—they are devoted 'Velcro dogs' who bond intensely with their families.
Medium
High
11-14 yrs
43-57 cm
16-27 kg
Quick Comparison
| Trait | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Energy | ||
| Trainability | ||
| Grooming Needs | ||
| Family Friendly | ||
| Independence |
Key Characteristics
| Good with Kids | ||
| Good with Dogs | ||
| Good with Cats | ||
| Hypoallergenic | ||
| Apartment Friendly | ||
| First-Time Owner OK |
| Detail | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Size | Large | Medium |
| Energy Level | High | High |
| Grooming | High | High |
| Trainability | challenging | Easy |
| Barking Level | High | Medium |
| Shedding Level | Medium | Low |
| Chew strength | Moderate | Moderate |
| Housing | Yard | Yard |
Owner Fit & Decision Guide
Owner Match
| Trait | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Experience Level | Experienced | Intermediate |
| First-Time Owner | ||
| Ideal Owner | Active individual or family who can provide adequate exercise and training for a Gordon Setter. | Active individual or family willing to hire professional groomer. Works from home or can provide midday activity. Has access to swimming opportunities. Tolerant of a shadow dog that demands interaction. |
Gordon Setter Dealbreakers
- Cannot meet 60-90 min daily exercise
- Cannot commit to grooming needs
Portuguese Water Dog Dealbreakers
- Sedentary lifestyle - if you hate walking/swimming, this dog becomes neurotic and destructive
- Budget constraints - if $100/month for grooming is a hardship
- Long work hours - if everyone is gone 9-5 without dog walker or daycare
Surrender Risk
| Factor | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Risk Level | Medium | Medium |
| Primary Reasons | Underestimated exercise needs, Behavioral challenges, Cost of care | Grooming & Energy - owners underestimate coat maintenance leading to severe matting, Mouthiness in puppyhood surprises and overwhelms owners, Sheer amount of interaction the dog demands |
Temperament & Personality
Behavior Comparison
| Trait | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Prey Drive | ||
| Watchdog Ability | ||
| Stranger Friendly | ||
| Drool Level | ||
| Wanderlust |
Vocalization
| Trait | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Barking Level | High | Medium |
| Howling Tendency | ||
| Whining Tendency | Low | High |
| Separation Vocalization |
Safety & Reliability
| Trait | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Escape Artist | ||
| Dog Park Suitable | ||
| Off-Leash Reliable | ||
| Small Animal Safe | ||
| Leash Reactivity | ||
| Resource Guarding Risk | Low | Low |
Gordon Setter Social Traits
Moderate
Generally friendly
Portuguese Water Dog Social Traits
Medium
Generally friendly with proper socialization
Training
Gordon Setter
- ** Positive reinforcement is the only viable path. Gordons are sensitive; harsh corrections will cause them to shut down or become defensive [cite: 4].
Portuguese Water Dog
- Use high-value treats and toys - 'Because it pays well' works better than 'Because I said so'
- Keep sessions varied and engaging - they get bored with repetition
- Channel mouthiness into retrieving games and teaching them to carry objects
Gordon Setter Considerations
This is the primary behavioral failure mode for the breed. Gordon Setters are intensely bonded "velcro" dogs. They do not tolerate isolation well. Left alone for standard workdays (8+ hours) without intervention, they frequently develop severe distress behaviors, including destructive chewing, howling, and self-mutilation.
Unlike the eager-to-please Labrador, the Gordon was bred to work independently of the hunter on the moors. This translates to a dog that will often consider a command, evaluate its merit, and potentially decline. They require a handler who understands how to motivate a thinking dog, not just a compliant one.
Owners often joke that Gordons remain puppies until they are three years old. This "Peter Pan" syndrome means you are signing up for a prolonged adolescence characterized by high energy, testing boundaries, and potential destructiveness long after other breeds have settled down.
While affectionate with their inner circle, Gordons are naturally aloof with strangers. Without extensive early socialization, this reserve can turn into fear-based reactivity or excessive territorial barking. They are watchdogs by nature, not the "everyone is my best friend" type.
Portuguese Water Dog Considerations
PWDs were bred to work on small fishing boats alongside their masters all day. They follow you into the bathroom and may develop severe separation anxiety if left alone 8+ hours. Prone to demand barking and whining if ignored.
As a retriever breed, they interact with the world through their mouths. PWD puppies are notoriously 'nippy' and oral—this is not aggression but can be painful and frightening for young children.
This breed is famous for dancing on hind legs and jumping up to greet faces. While charming to some, it's a significant fall risk for elderly owners or small children.
Professional grooming every 6-8 weeks at $100-150 is mandatory, not optional. Neglecting this leads to severe matting that damages skin and requires shave-down.
Multi-Species Compatibility
| Species | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| With Cats | Caution - may chase | Generally safe if socialized - may chase running animals but usually stop when animal stops |
| Small Mammals | Supervision required | Caution - may try to chase and retrieve |
| Birds / Reptiles | Caution advised | Not a livestock guardian - may try to herd or play with stock |
Advanced Behavior
| Trait | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Predatory Sequence Risk | Medium | Arrested |
| Biddability | Low | High |
| Noise Sensitivity | Low | Low |
| Territorial Barking | ||
| Same-Sex Aggression Onset | 18 months | N/A |
Portuguese Water Dog: Predatory sequence: Orient -> Eye -> Stalk -> Chase -> Grab-Bite. The Kill-Bite and Dissect phases are inhibited. This makes them generally safe with other dogs and often cats, though they may annoy them.
First Year & Life Stages
First Year Challenges
| Challenge | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Puppy Difficulty | ||
| Destructive Phase | 6-18 | 6-18 |
| House Training | Challenging | Moderate |
| Crate Training | Medium | High |
| Adolescent Regression |
Gordon Setter: Gordon Setter puppies require consistent training and patience.
Portuguese Water Dog: PWD puppies are 'land sharks' - their retrieving instinct manifests as severe nipping and mouthing. Combined with high intelligence and energy, they require more management than a Golden Retriever (6/10) but less than a Malinois (9/10).
Life Stages Timeline
| Stage | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Puppy Phase | 12 months | 12 months |
| Adolescence | 6-18 | 12-36 |
| Adult Years | 2-8 | 3-9 |
| Senior Onset | ~8 years | ~9 years |
| Peak Energy Age | 1-3 years | 1-3 years |
Size & Physical Characteristics
Physical Stats
| Measurement | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Height | N/A | 43-57 cm |
| Weight | Not enough data yet | Not enough data yet |
| Size Category | Large | Medium |
| Lifespan | 10–12 years | 11–14 years |
| Litter Size | 4-8 | 4-8 |
Gordon Setter Coat
Portuguese Water Dog Coat
Lineage & Origin
| Detail | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Original Purpose | Developed in Scotland in the 17th century, specifically at Gordon Castle by the Fourth Duke of Gordo | Fishing crew member - herding fish into nets, swimming messages between boats, retrieving broken nets and tackle |
| Origin | N/A | Portugal, coastal regions, centuries-old heritage |
Breeding Details
| Detail | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| C-Section Rate | Varies | Low |
| Whelping Difficulty | Medium | Easy |
| Puppy Mortality Rate | Low | Low |
Physical Risks
| Risk | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Bloat / GDV Risk | Low | Low |
| Slippery Floor Risk | Low | Low |
| Min Fence Height | 1.5m | 1.5m |
| Dig / Escape Risk | Low | Low |
Health & Common Conditions
Gordon Setter Health Issues
Portuguese Water Dog Health Issues
Gordon Setter Suggested Tests
- PRA-rcd4 (Genetic Test)
- Cerebellar Degeneration (CCA) (Genetic Test)
- OFA Hip/Elbow evaluations
- Gastropexy (surgical prevention for Bloat)
Portuguese Water Dog Suggested Tests
- prcd-PRA DNA test
- EOPRA DNA test
- JDCM DNA test
- GM-1 DNA test
- OFA Hip Evaluations (or PennHIP)
- Annual Eye Exams (CAER)
Health Risk Overview
| Risk Factor | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Cancer Risk | Medium | Low |
| Cardiac Risk | Low | Medium |
| Neurological Risk | Low | Low |
| CCL/ACL Tear Risk | Low | Low |
| Vet Burden Tier | Medium | Medium |
Sensitivities & Allergies
| Sensitivity | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Skin Allergies | ||
| Environmental Allergies | ||
| Stomach Sensitivity | Low | Moderate |
| Food Allergies |
Health Maintenance
| Care Item | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Nail Growth Rate | Normal | Normal |
| Eye Care Needs | Low | Medium |
| Anal Gland Issues | Occasional | Rare |
Senior Care & Aging
Gordon Setter Senior Care
Common Senior Issues
- Arthritis
- Vision decline
- Cognitive changes
Senior care varies by individual health.
Portuguese Water Dog Senior Care
Common Senior Issues
- Arthritis/joint stiffness
- Cataracts/PRA progression
- Addison's Disease (can appear at any age)
- Hip dysplasia complications
Slow down significantly around 9+. Watch for clouding eyes (cataracts/PRA) and stiffness (arthritis).
Grooming & Care
Gordon Setter
high maintenancePortuguese Water Dog
high maintenanceLifestyle Compatibility
Gordon Setter Daily Life
Portuguese Water Dog Daily Life
Housing & Legal Restrictions
| Restriction | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| BSL Restricted | ||
| Common Rental Ban | ||
| Insurance Blacklist | ||
| Weight Category | Under 50lbs | 25-50lbs |
Climate Tolerance
| Climate | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Heat Tolerance | ||
| Cold Tolerance | ||
| Water Affinity | Medium | Extreme |
Travel Compatibility
| Activity | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Car Travel | Good | Excellent |
| Camping | ||
| Beach Friendly | ||
| Hiking Rating | ||
| Cabin Flight Eligible | ||
| Hotel Friendly Size |
Niche Suitability
| Role | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Service Dog | Low | Medium |
| Therapy Dog | Low | High |
| Deep Pressure Therapy | ||
| Canicross / Bikejoring | ||
| Apartment Adaptable | ||
| Tactile / Sensory Friendly | ||
| Livestock Guardian | ||
| Medical Alert | Low | Medium |
Costs & Expenses
Upfront Costs
| Cost | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Purchase Price | N/A | $2,500-4,500 |
| Initial Cost Range | $1,000–$2,500 | $2,500–$4,500 |
| Cost Tier |
Ongoing Costs
| Cost | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Monthly Range | $140–$220 | $150–$300 |
| Yearly Range | $1,680–$2,640 | $2,500–$3,500 |
| Food / Month | $80-120 | $60-90 |
| Insurance / Month | $60-100 | $50-80 |
| Grooming / Session | $80-120 | $100-150 |
| Vet Routine / Year | $300-500 | $400-1,000 |
| Monthly Cost Tier |
Gordon Setter Lifetime Cost
N/A
Portuguese Water Dog Lifetime Cost
$30,000-50,000
Quirks & Fun Facts
Daily Quirks
| Quirk | Gordon Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Snoring | ||
| Flatulence | Occasional | Rare |
| Slobber Level | Low | None |
| Smell When Wet | Moderate | None |
| Zoomies Frequency | Occasional | Daily |
| Counter Surfing | ||
| Digging Tendency | Low | Low |
Portuguese Water Dog Quirks
Counter Surfing Ninjas
Their intelligence and food motivation make them expert kitchen thieves - they can steal food with impressive stealth
The Portie Greeting
Famous for dancing on hind legs and jumping up to greet faces - can be a fall risk for elderly or children
The Talker
They 'talk' with grumbles, moans, and varied barks as common ways to communicate their needs
Water Obsession
Most will dive into any body of water including mud puddles and swimming pools
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