Havanese vs Irish Setter
A side-by-side comparison to help you find the right breed for your lifestyle.
Havanese
Also known as: Havana Silk Dog, Bichon Havanais, Cuban Bichon
The Havanese is a small, sturdy dog breed known for its friendly and affectionate nature, as well as its distinctive silky coat. Originating from Cuba, this breed is highly sociable and adaptable, making it a popular choice for families and urban dwellers alike.
Extra Small
Medium
14-16 yrs
23-28 cm
3.2-5.9 kg
Irish Setter
The Irish Setter is a friendly and energetic breed known for its striking red coat and graceful, athletic build. Renowned for their intelligence and gentle temperament, these dogs make excellent family companions and excel in various canine sports and activities.
Large
High
11-15 years yrs
N/A cm
Quick Comparison
| Trait | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Energy | ||
| Trainability | ||
| Grooming Needs | ||
| Family Friendly | ||
| Independence |
Key Characteristics
| Good with Kids | ||
| Good with Dogs | ||
| Good with Cats | ||
| Hypoallergenic | ||
| Apartment Friendly | ||
| First-Time Owner OK |
| Detail | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Size | Extra Small | Large |
| Energy Level | Medium | High |
| Grooming | High | High |
| Trainability | Easy | Moderate |
| Barking Level | Medium | Medium |
| Shedding Level | Low | Medium |
| Chew strength | Light | Moderate |
| Housing | Apartment | Yard |
Owner Fit & Decision Guide
Owner Match
| Trait | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Experience Level | Beginner | Beginner |
| First-Time Owner | ||
| Ideal Owner | Someone who works from home or has flexible schedule. Willing to commit to grooming maintenance. Patient with housebreaking challenges. Looking for affectionate companion who wants to be with them 24/7. | Active individual or family who can provide adequate exercise and training for a Irish Setter. |
Havanese Dealbreakers
- Work 8+ hours away from home daily
- Want a dog that lives outside
- Cannot afford professional grooming ($800+/year)
- Want a dog that is instantly potty trained
Irish Setter Dealbreakers
- Cannot meet 90-120 min daily exercise
- Cannot commit to grooming needs
Surrender Risk
| Factor | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Risk Level | Low | Medium |
| Primary Reasons | Owner lifestyle change (divorce, moving, death), Housebreaking failure - people underestimate potty training commitment | Underestimated exercise needs, Behavioral challenges, Cost of care |
Temperament & Personality
Behavior Comparison
| Trait | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Prey Drive | ||
| Watchdog Ability | ||
| Stranger Friendly | ||
| Drool Level | ||
| Wanderlust |
Vocalization
| Trait | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Barking Level | Medium | Medium |
| Howling Tendency | ||
| Whining Tendency | Medium | Low |
| Separation Vocalization |
Safety & Reliability
| Trait | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Escape Artist | ||
| Dog Park Suitable | ||
| Off-Leash Reliable | ||
| Small Animal Safe | ||
| Leash Reactivity | ||
| Resource Guarding Risk | Low | Low |
Havanese Social Traits
Low
Low - generally loves other dogs
Irish Setter Social Traits
Low
Generally friendly
Training
Havanese
- Use their high food drive and social drive for training
- Sensitivity means harsh corrections cause shutdown or submissive urination
- Consistency is key - don't let them get away with bad behavior just because they're small
Irish Setter
- ** Positive reinforcement is essential. They work for engagement and fun, not just duty.
Havanese Considerations
Bred for centuries solely as companions to Cuban aristocracy - genetically wired to be with humans. Leaving them alone 8+ hours results in destructive chewing, excessive barking, and house soiling.
Notoriously slow to potty train. Small bladders and 'sneaky soiling' means they may not be fully reliable until 6-8 months old, sometimes older. Requires consistent positive reinforcement.
Excellent watchdogs who announce every delivery truck, neighbor, and squirrel. In apartments with thin walls, this requires dedicated training to manage.
Unless you learn to groom yourself, expect $60-100 every 4-6 weeks for professional grooming. That's $700-1,200 annually just for haircuts.
Irish Setter Considerations
This is a "Velcro" breed in the truest sense. Irish Setters were bred to work in tandem with humans and possess a profound need for companionship. They do not tolerate isolation well. Left alone for standard workdays (8+ hours), they frequently develop destructive behaviors (chewing drywall, digging) and distress vocalization (howling/barking).
Irish Setters are notoriously slow to mature. While physically full-grown by 12-18 months, their mental maturity often lags until age 3 or 4. Owners must be prepared for a large, powerful dog that retains the impulse control and chaotic energy of a 4-month-old puppy for several years.
As a bird dog, their instinct to scan the horizon and chase is hardwired. They are generally not safe around birds, and their recall can vanish instantly if a visual trigger (squirrel, bird, leaf) activates their prey drive. This makes off-leash reliability in unfenced areas a significant challenge.
Multi-Species Compatibility
| Species | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| With Cats | Excellent - generally great with cats | Caution - may chase |
| Small Mammals | Safe - low prey drive makes them one of safest breeds for rabbits and guinea pigs | Supervision required |
| Birds / Reptiles | Safe - generally lacks drive to harm, though always supervise | Caution advised |
Advanced Behavior
| Trait | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Predatory Sequence Risk | Arrested | Medium |
| Biddability | High | Low |
| Noise Sensitivity | Medium | Low |
| Territorial Barking | ||
| Same-Sex Aggression Onset | N/A | 18 months |
Havanese: May 'Eye' and 'Chase' for play but 'Grab-Bite' and 'Kill-Bite' largely absent. Safe with hamsters and birds if supervised. High biddability but can learn bad habits fast (like barking for attention).
First Year & Life Stages
First Year Challenges
| Challenge | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Puppy Difficulty | ||
| Destructive Phase | 4-12 | 6-18 |
| House Training | Hard | Moderate |
| Crate Training | Medium | Medium |
| Adolescent Regression |
Havanese: Sweet and generally non-destructive compared to larger breeds. Main challenge is housebreaking frustration - their 'tell' (sign they need to go) is subtle. Adolescent regression at 6-10 months coincides with 'blowing coat' phase where grooming becomes a nightmare.
Irish Setter: Irish Setter puppies require consistent training and patience.
Life Stages Timeline
| Stage | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Puppy Phase | 12 months | 12 months |
| Adolescence | 6-18 | 6-18 |
| Adult Years | 2-9 | 2-8 |
| Senior Onset | ~10 years | ~8 years |
| Peak Energy Age | 1-3 years | 1-3 years |
Size & Physical Characteristics
Physical Stats
| Measurement | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Height | 23-28 cm | N/A cm |
| Weight | Not enough data yet | Not enough data yet |
| Size Category | Extra Small | Large |
| Lifespan | 14–16 years | 11–15 years |
| Litter Size | 4-6 | 4-8 |
Havanese Coat
Irish Setter Coat
Lineage & Origin
| Detail | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Original Purpose | Companion dog for Cuban aristocracy - bred to sit on laps, act as bed warmers, and entertain | setting (crouching) game birds on the moors |
| Origin | Cuba, 18th-19th century (descended from Blanquito de la Habana and Bichon Tenerife) | in Ireland in the 18th century |
Breeding Details
| Detail | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| C-Section Rate | Low | Varies |
| Whelping Difficulty | Easy | Medium |
| Puppy Mortality Rate | Low | Low |
Physical Risks
| Risk | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Bloat / GDV Risk | Low | Low |
| Slippery Floor Risk | Low | Low |
| Min Fence Height | 1m | 1.5m |
| Dig / Escape Risk | Low | Low |
Health & Common Conditions
Havanese Health Issues
Irish Setter Health Issues
Havanese Suggested Tests
- Hip Evaluation (OFA)
- Patella Evaluation
- Ophthalmologist Evaluation (CAER)
- BAER Hearing Test
Irish Setter Suggested Tests
- CLAD (DNA)
- PRA (rcd1 & rcd4 DNA)
- OFA/PennHIP clearances for hips and thyroid
Health Risk Overview
| Risk Factor | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Cancer Risk | Low | Medium |
| Cardiac Risk | Medium | Low |
| Neurological Risk | Low | Low |
| CCL/ACL Tear Risk | Low | Low |
| Vet Burden Tier | Medium | Medium |
Sensitivities & Allergies
| Sensitivity | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Skin Allergies | ||
| Environmental Allergies | ||
| Stomach Sensitivity | Low | Low |
| Food Allergies |
Health Maintenance
| Care Item | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Nail Growth Rate | Normal | Normal |
| Eye Care Needs | High | Low |
| Anal Gland Issues | Occasional | Occasional |
Senior Care & Aging
Havanese Senior Care
Common Senior Issues
- Cataracts
- Heart murmurs (Mitral Valve Disease)
- Hearing loss
- Arthritis
Generally stay sharp mentally. Ramps for furniture recommended to protect backs and joints in senior years.
Irish Setter Senior Care
Common Senior Issues
- Arthritis
- Vision decline
- Cognitive changes
Senior care varies by individual health.
Grooming & Care
Havanese
high maintenanceIrish Setter
high maintenanceLifestyle Compatibility
Havanese Daily Life
Irish Setter Daily Life
Housing & Legal Restrictions
| Restriction | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| BSL Restricted | ||
| Common Rental Ban | ||
| Insurance Blacklist | ||
| Weight Category | Under 25lbs | Under 50lbs |
Climate Tolerance
| Climate | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Heat Tolerance | ||
| Cold Tolerance | ||
| Water Affinity | Medium | High |
Travel Compatibility
| Activity | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Car Travel | Excellent | Good |
| Camping | ||
| Beach Friendly | ||
| Hiking Rating | ||
| Cabin Flight Eligible | ||
| Hotel Friendly Size |
Niche Suitability
| Role | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Service Dog | Medium | Low |
| Therapy Dog | High | Low |
| Deep Pressure Therapy | ||
| Canicross / Bikejoring | ||
| Apartment Adaptable | ||
| Tactile / Sensory Friendly | ||
| Livestock Guardian | ||
| Medical Alert | Low | Low |
Costs & Expenses
Upfront Costs
| Cost | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Purchase Price | $1,500-3,500+ | N/A |
| Initial Cost Range | $1,500–$3,500 | $1,000–$2,500 |
| Cost Tier |
Ongoing Costs
| Cost | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Monthly Range | $100–$200 | $140–$220 |
| Yearly Range | $1,500–$2,500 | $1,680–$2,640 |
| Food / Month | $20-40 | $80-120 |
| Insurance / Month | $30-50 | $60-100 |
| Grooming / Session | $60-100 | $70-100 |
| Vet Routine / Year | $300-500 | $300-600 |
| Monthly Cost Tier |
Havanese Lifetime Cost
$20,000-35,000
Irish Setter Lifetime Cost
N/A
Quirks & Fun Facts
Daily Quirks
| Quirk | Havanese | Irish Setter |
|---|---|---|
| Snoring | ||
| Flatulence | Rare | Occasional |
| Slobber Level | None | Low |
| Smell When Wet | Mild | Moderate |
| Zoomies Frequency | Daily | Occasional |
| Counter Surfing | ||
| Digging Tendency | None | Low |
Havanese Quirks
Paper Shredding
Many Havanese love to shred tissues, toilet paper, and napkins - it's a common breed quirk
Perching Like a Cat
Often sit on backs of sofas or look out windows from high vantage points
Run Like Hell (RLH)
The Havanese version of zoomies - they tuck their butts and sprint in circles at high speed
Shadow Dog
Will follow you to the bathroom - they are true velcro dogs
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