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English Setter vs Giant Schnauzer

A side-by-side comparison to help you find the right breed for your lifestyle.

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English Setter

Also known as: Laverack Setter, Llewellin Setter

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The English Setter is a graceful and elegant gun dog known for its distinctive feathered coat and gentle demeanor. Often called the 'gentleman of the dog world,' they combine athletic prowess with a sweet, affectionate temperament that makes them exceptional family companions for active households.

Size

Large

Energy

High

Lifespan

11-13 yrs

Height

61-69 cm

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Giant Schnauzer

Also known as: Riesenschnauzer, Munich Schnauzer

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The Giant Schnauzer is a powerful and intelligent large dog breed known for its imposing presence, distinctive beard, and loyal temperament. Originating from Germany, this is the largest of the three Schnauzer breeds and was originally bred for driving cattle and guarding. They are celebrated for their courage, trainability, and protective nature.

Size

Extra Large

Energy

High

Lifespan

10-12 yrs

Height

60-70 cm

Weight

35-47 kg

Quick Comparison

TraitEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Energy
Trainability
Grooming Needs
Family Friendly
Independence

Key Characteristics

Good with Kids
Good with Dogs
Good with Cats
Hypoallergenic
Apartment Friendly
First-Time Owner OK
DetailEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
SizeLargeExtra Large
Energy LevelHighHigh
GroomingHighHigh
TrainabilityModeratechallenging
Barking LevelMediumHigh
Shedding LevelHighLow
Chew strengthModerateN/A
HousingYardYard

Owner Fit & Decision Guide

Owner Match

TraitEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Experience LevelIntermediateAdvanced
First-Time Owner
Ideal OwnerHikers, runners, hunters, or active families with a large fenced yard. Someone who works from home or can provide companionship. Understanding they are getting a hunting dog, not a couch ornament.Experienced dog owner who understands canine body language and drive theory. Active lifestyle with time for 2+ hours of daily engagement. Confident personality that can be firm and consistent. Has secure property with 6ft fence. Works from home or can provide midday activity. No other dogs of same sex in household.

English Setter Dealbreakers

  • No fenced yard - dealing with a Setter without secure fencing is a part-time job
  • Work long hours away from home - separation anxiety is significant
  • Cannot commit to 60-90 min daily exercise
  • Fastidious housekeepers - mud, hair, and water drips are part of the package

Giant Schnauzer Dealbreakers

  • First-time dog owner
  • Sedentary lifestyle
  • Passive personality - cannot firmly enforce rules
  • Live in rental housing (breed bans and size limits)
  • Have other dogs of the same sex

Surrender Risk

FactorEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Risk LevelMediumHigh
Primary ReasonsEscaping - 'He won't stay in the yard', Too much energy for owner's lifestyle, Separation anxiety and barking when left aloneBit me/my child/my other dog, Owner failed to set boundaries, 90lb dog now challenges for control, Same-sex aggression emerged at maturity, Cannot afford insurance or housing

Temperament & Personality

Behavior Comparison

TraitEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Prey Drive
Watchdog Ability
Stranger Friendly
Drool Level
Wanderlust

Vocalization

TraitEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Barking LevelMediumHigh
Howling Tendency
Whining TendencyMediumLow
Separation Vocalization
English Setter bark triggers
Strangers approachingDoorbellBirds/wildlife
Giant Schnauzer bark triggers
Strangers approachingPerceived threatsOther dogsNoises outside

Safety & Reliability

TraitEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Escape Artist
Dog Park Suitable
Off-Leash Reliable
Small Animal Safe
Leash Reactivity
Resource Guarding RiskLowHigh

English Setter Social Traits

Velcro Dog
One Person Dog
Handling ToleranceHigh
Stranger Wariness

Low

With Other Dogs

Low - generally excellent with other dogs and enjoy pack life. Same-sex aggression is rare.

Giant Schnauzer Social Traits

Velcro Dog
One Person Dog
Handling ToleranceMedium
Stranger Wariness

Very High

With Other Dogs

Very selective - same-sex aggression common, best as only dog or with submissive opposite-sex dog

Training

English Setter

MethodPositive reinforcement only
Repetitions to Learn15-25
Challenges
Selective deafness when on a scent trailEasily distracted by birds and wildlifeMay 'shut down' with harsh corrections
Tips
  • They are 'soft' dogs - harsh corrections or yelling will cause them to shut down or become fearful
  • Recall training must be proofed with high distractions - a long line is recommended until reliability is 100%
  • Use high-value treats to compete with bird distractions

Giant Schnauzer

MethodBalanced training - firm and fair
Repetitions to Learn15-25 for new commands
Challenges
Constantly testing boundariesFinding and exploiting loopholes in commandsRequires consistency across ALL family membersDoes not respond well to harsh punishment OR purely positive methods
Tips
  • They need 'No' to mean 'No' - not permissive training
  • Be a confident leader - if you are passive, they will assume leadership
  • They are intelligent problem solvers who will exploit inconsistency
  • Socialization is a race against the clock before suspicion sets in

English Setter Considerations

dealbreakerSeparation Anxiety

English Setters are intensely social 'velcro' dogs that bond deeply with their humans. Left alone for 8+ hours without conditioning or companionship, they frequently develop severe anxiety manifesting as destructive chewing, house soiling, and persistent howling.

dealbreakerIntense Prey Drive (The 'Birdy' Brain)

Their predatory drive is all-consuming. On walks, they may become deaf to commands if they catch a scent or spot a bird. Off-leash reliability in unfenced areas is nearly impossible for the average owner.

challengeEscape Artist Tendencies

Bored or under-exercised Setters are notorious for testing perimeter security. Their athleticism allows them to jump moderate fences, and digging instincts can compromise fence lines if they see prey on the other side.

Giant Schnauzer Considerations

dealbreakerSame-Sex Aggression

Male Giant Schnauzers are notoriously intolerant of other males, and females can be equally combative. This often emerges at sexual maturity (18-24 months), turning a peaceful puppy household into a war zone. Many owners end up 'crate and rotate' (permanent separation).

dealbreakerDominance & Testing

Unlike eager-to-please breeds, Giant Schnauzers constantly ask 'Why should I?' They test boundaries relentlessly. Passive or inconsistent owners will find themselves with a dog that assumes leadership, leading to resource guarding and territorial aggression.

dealbreakerHigh Prey Drive

Their heritage involves vermin control and cattle driving. The 'kill bite' part of the predatory sequence is often intact. Cats, rabbits, and small dogs are at significant risk.

challengeInsurance Blacklists

Giant Schnauzers appear on many insurance 'dangerous dog' lists. Premiums may be 2-3x higher than average, or coverage denied entirely. Check insurance BEFORE getting this dog.

Multi-Species Compatibility

SpeciesEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
With CatsRisky - while some can live with cats if raised together, the instinct to chase is hardwired. Generally not safe.High risk - only possible with strict supervision and early socialization, never guaranteed
Small MammalsCaution required - rabbits and hamsters trigger the chase instinct. Supervision mandatory.Dangerous - strong prey drive
Birds / ReptilesUnsafe - birds are their ancestral prey. Will fixate on bird cages causing stress to both animals.Unsafe - predatory drive intact

Advanced Behavior

TraitEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Predatory Sequence RiskArrestedFull
BiddabilityHighMedium
Noise SensitivityLowLow
Territorial Barking
Same-Sex Aggression OnsetN/A18 months

English Setter: Predatory sequence is Orient -> Eye -> Stalk -> Chase -> Point. The 'Grab-Bite' and 'Kill-Bite' are usually inhibited, meaning they are less dangerous to prey than terriers, but the chase drive is just as strong. They want to please but are easily distracted by birds.

Giant Schnauzer: The predatory sequence (Eye->Stalk->Chase->Grab->Kill) is often intact from their vermin control heritage. They are true guard dogs who will physically confront threats - not just alert bark. They require an owner who can call them off immediately. Independent worker but cooperative with established handler.

First Year & Life Stages

First Year Challenges

ChallengeEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Puppy Difficulty
Destructive Phase7-126-24
House TrainingMediumModerate
Crate TrainingHighMedium
Adolescent Regression

English Setter: Setter puppies combine high energy with a distractible hunting brain. House training can be slower than average (sensitive to surface textures). Very mouthy and prone to chewing furniture if bored. Around 8-10 months, they often 'forget' recall - this is when they're most likely to run off after a bird.

Giant Schnauzer: Unlike friendly Labs, Giant Schnauzer puppies combine sharp puppy teeth with a desire to dominate. They challenge handling early. Socialization is a race against the clock before their suspicion of strangers sets in. They are 'beavers' that will dismantle furniture if bored.

Life Stages Timeline

StageEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Puppy Phase12 months18 months
Adolescence12-2418-36
Adult Years2-83-8
Senior Onset~9 years~9 years
Peak Energy Age1-3 years2-5 years

Size & Physical Characteristics

Physical Stats

MeasurementEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Height61-69 cm60-70 cm
WeightNot enough data yetNot enough data yet
Size CategoryLargeExtra Large
Lifespan

11–13 years

10–12 years

Litter Size6-85-9

English Setter Coat

Type single
Length Long
Texture silky
Colors
Blue BeltonOrange BeltonLemon BeltonTricolorLiver Belton

Giant Schnauzer Coat

Type double
Length Medium
Texture wiry
Colors
Solid BlackSalt & Pepper

Lineage & Origin

DetailEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Original PurposeLocating and setting (pointing) game birds on English moors for net and gun huntersCattle driving and guarding butcher shops/breweries
OriginEngland, 15th-17th centuryBavarian Alps, Germany

Breeding Details

DetailEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
C-Section RateLowLow
Whelping DifficultyEasyEasy
Puppy Mortality RateLowLow

Physical Risks

RiskEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Bloat / GDV RiskHighHigh
Slippery Floor RiskMediumMedium
Min Fence Height1.5m1.8m
Dig / Escape RiskMediumLow

Health & Common Conditions

English Setter Health Issues

Congenital Deafness4.5%
Hip Dysplasia16-24%
Hypothyroidism16.8%
Otitis Externa (Ear Infections)Very High
Elbow Dysplasia16.5%

Giant Schnauzer Health Issues

Squamous Cell Carcinoma (Toe Cancer)Highly predisposed
Hip Dysplasia19.8%
Epilepsy3.7-4%
Hypothyroidism~3%
Bloat (GDV)High risk

English Setter Suggested Tests

  • BAER (Brainstem Auditory Evoked Response) test for deafness
  • Hip Evaluation (OFA or PennHIP)
  • Thyroid Evaluation
  • Elbow Evaluation

Giant Schnauzer Suggested Tests

  • Hip Dysplasia (OFA)
  • Thyroid
  • Eyes (CERF)
  • DCM (Heart)
  • DLA diversity

Health Risk Overview

Risk FactorEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Cancer RiskMediumHigh
Cardiac RiskLowMedium
Neurological RiskLowMedium
CCL/ACL Tear RiskMediumMedium
Vet Burden TierMediumHigh

Sensitivities & Allergies

SensitivityEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Skin Allergies
Environmental Allergies
Stomach SensitivityLowLow
Food AllergiesGrain sensitivities possibleGrain sensitivities

Health Maintenance

Care ItemEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Nail Growth RateNormalFast
Eye Care NeedsLowLow
Anal Gland IssuesRareRare

Senior Care & Aging

English Setter Senior Care

Common Senior Issues

  • Arthritis/joint stiffness
  • Cancer (hemangiosarcoma, lymphoma)
  • Hearing loss
  • Mobility issues
Mobility Aid LikelihoodMedium
QoL Decline Age~10 years
End of Life ComplexityMedium

Quality of life often remains good until late. Cancer and mobility issues are the common end-of-life factors. Some reach 14-15 years.

Giant Schnauzer Senior Care

Common Senior Issues

  • Cancer (especially toe cancer)
  • Hip dysplasia progression
  • Hypothyroidism
  • Cognitive decline
Mobility Aid LikelihoodHigh
QoL Decline Age~9 years
End of Life ComplexityHigh

Rapid decline can occur in senior years. Cancer is the primary concern and often the limiting factor on lifespan. Any broken nail or toe swelling must be treated as potential emergency.

Grooming & Care

English Setter

high maintenance
Coat Typesingle
Coat Lengthlong
Coat Texturesilky
Shedding LevelHigh
Seasonal SheddingHigh
Ear Cleaningweekly
Dental RiskMedium
Obesity Prone
Winter Gear Needed
Summer Restrictions
Paw Protection
Odor LevelModerate (especially with skin issues or ear infections)
Tactile FeelSilky and soft - very pleasant to pet, though acts as magnet for burrs and mud
Colors
Blue BeltonOrange BeltonLemon BeltonTricolorLiver Belton

Giant Schnauzer

high maintenance
Coat Typedouble
Coat Lengthmedium
Coat Texturewiry
Shedding LevelLow
Seasonal SheddingLow
Ear Cleaningweekly
Dental RiskMedium
Obesity Prone
Winter Gear Needed
Summer Restrictions
Paw Protection
Odor LevelLow
Tactile FeelWiry/Coarse - not soft to touch unless furnishings kept long
Colors
Solid BlackSalt & Pepper

Lifestyle Compatibility

English Setter Daily Life

Exercise Needs60-90 min/day
Alone TimeUp to 4h
Mental StimulationHigh
ApartmentPoor - their size, need to run, and potential for alert barking make them ill-suited for cramped urban living
Work from HomeExcellent - will happily sleep under your desk while you work, provided they get their morning run
Weekend WarriorChallenging - needs consistent daily exercise, not just weekends
HousingYard
Barking LevelMedium
First-Time Owner
Exercise Types
Off-leash running in secure areaLong-line decompression walksSwimmingFetch/retrieving gamesScent work
NighttimeCalm 'rug dog' indoors - happy to sleep on sofa or on you when exercise needs are met
Food MotivationHigh

Giant Schnauzer Daily Life

Exercise Needs90-120 min/day
Alone TimeUp to 4h
Mental StimulationVery High
ApartmentGenerally no - too large, active, and vocal for high-density living
Work from HomeSuitable - loves being with owner, but may bark at delivery drivers and demand attention
Weekend WarriorNOT suitable - cannot be crated all week, needs daily outlets or will become destructive and aggressive
HousingYard
Barking LevelHigh
First-Time Owner
Exercise Types
Running/joggingSwimmingSchutzhund/protection sportsNoseworkAdvanced obedience
NighttimeActive guardian - may patrol house and bark at noises outside
Food MotivationHigh

Housing & Legal Restrictions

RestrictionEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
BSL Restricted
Common Rental Ban
Insurance Blacklist
Weight CategoryOver 50lbsOver 50lbs

Climate Tolerance

ClimateEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Heat Tolerance
Cold Tolerance
Water AffinityHighMedium

Travel Compatibility

ActivityEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Car TravelGoodGood
Camping
Beach Friendly
Hiking Rating
Cabin Flight Eligible
Hotel Friendly Size

Niche Suitability

RoleEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Service DogLowMedium
Therapy DogMediumLow
Deep Pressure Therapy
Canicross / Bikejoring
Apartment Adaptable
Tactile / Sensory Friendly
Livestock Guardian
Medical AlertLowMedium

Costs & Expenses

Upfront Costs

CostEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Purchase Price$1,000-1,500$2,500-3,500
Initial Cost Range$1,300–$2,000$2,500–$3,500
Cost Tier

Ongoing Costs

CostEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Monthly Range$180–$275$200–$350
Yearly Range$2,160–$3,300$3,000–$4,500
Food / Month$75-125$80-120
Insurance / Month$40-70$60-100
Grooming / Session$65-100$100-200
Vet Routine / Year$600-960$500-1,000
Monthly Cost Tier

English Setter Lifetime Cost

$25,000-45,000

Giant Schnauzer Lifetime Cost

$35,000-60,000

Quirks & Fun Facts

Daily Quirks

QuirkEnglish SetterGiant Schnauzer
Snoring
FlatulenceRareOccasional
Slobber LevelModerateLight
Smell When WetStrongMild
Zoomies FrequencyDailyDaily
Counter Surfing
Digging TendencyMediumLow

English Setter Quirks

Setter Sprawl

Famous for sleeping in bizarre, contorted positions on furniture

Water Dripper

Loose 'flews' (lips) that drip water after drinking and leave slime on your pants after a nudge

Velcro Attachment

Will follow you to the bathroom - they need to be integrated into family life, not left as backyard dogs

The Off Switch

Indoors, a well-exercised Setter is a 'rug dog' - calm, quiet, and happy to sleep. Not hyperactive pacers like some herding breeds.

Giant Schnauzer Quirks

The Soggy Beard

The beard is a sponge - you will have water trails on your floor and wet spots on your lap after every drink.

Schnauzer Talk

They are vocal communicators - grumbling, woo-wooing, and groaning to express themselves.

Bathroom Shadow

You will never be alone again. If you close a door, they will wait on the other side. They need to be with their handler to feel secure.

Frequently Asked Questions

Yes, English Setters are exceptionally gentle and tolerant with children, making them top-tier family pets for active households. They are known as the 'gentleman of the dog world' for their mild manners.
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