English Setter vs Portuguese Water Dog
A side-by-side comparison to help you find the right breed for your lifestyle.
English Setter
Also known as: Laverack Setter, Llewellin Setter
The English Setter is a graceful and elegant gun dog known for its distinctive feathered coat and gentle demeanor. Often called the 'gentleman of the dog world,' they combine athletic prowess with a sweet, affectionate temperament that makes them exceptional family companions for active households.
Large
High
11-13 yrs
61-69 cm
Portuguese Water Dog
Also known as: PWD, Portie, Cão de Água Português, Obama Dog
The Portuguese Water Dog (PWD) is a highly energetic and intelligent breed known for its curly, hypoallergenic coat and exceptional swimming abilities. Originally bred to work alongside Portuguese fishermen—herding fish into nets, retrieving lost tackle, and swimming messages between boats—they are devoted 'Velcro dogs' who bond intensely with their families.
Medium
High
11-14 yrs
43-57 cm
16-27 kg
Quick Comparison
| Trait | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Energy | ||
| Trainability | ||
| Grooming Needs | ||
| Family Friendly | ||
| Independence |
Key Characteristics
| Good with Kids | ||
| Good with Dogs | ||
| Good with Cats | ||
| Hypoallergenic | ||
| Apartment Friendly | ||
| First-Time Owner OK |
| Detail | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Size | Large | Medium |
| Energy Level | High | High |
| Grooming | High | High |
| Trainability | Moderate | Easy |
| Barking Level | Medium | Medium |
| Shedding Level | High | Low |
| Chew strength | Moderate | Moderate |
| Housing | Yard | Yard |
Owner Fit & Decision Guide
Owner Match
| Trait | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Experience Level | Intermediate | Intermediate |
| First-Time Owner | ||
| Ideal Owner | Hikers, runners, hunters, or active families with a large fenced yard. Someone who works from home or can provide companionship. Understanding they are getting a hunting dog, not a couch ornament. | Active individual or family willing to hire professional groomer. Works from home or can provide midday activity. Has access to swimming opportunities. Tolerant of a shadow dog that demands interaction. |
English Setter Dealbreakers
- No fenced yard - dealing with a Setter without secure fencing is a part-time job
- Work long hours away from home - separation anxiety is significant
- Cannot commit to 60-90 min daily exercise
- Fastidious housekeepers - mud, hair, and water drips are part of the package
Portuguese Water Dog Dealbreakers
- Sedentary lifestyle - if you hate walking/swimming, this dog becomes neurotic and destructive
- Budget constraints - if $100/month for grooming is a hardship
- Long work hours - if everyone is gone 9-5 without dog walker or daycare
Surrender Risk
| Factor | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Risk Level | Medium | Medium |
| Primary Reasons | Escaping - 'He won't stay in the yard', Too much energy for owner's lifestyle, Separation anxiety and barking when left alone | Grooming & Energy - owners underestimate coat maintenance leading to severe matting, Mouthiness in puppyhood surprises and overwhelms owners, Sheer amount of interaction the dog demands |
Temperament & Personality
Behavior Comparison
| Trait | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Prey Drive | ||
| Watchdog Ability | ||
| Stranger Friendly | ||
| Drool Level | ||
| Wanderlust |
Vocalization
| Trait | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Barking Level | Medium | Medium |
| Howling Tendency | ||
| Whining Tendency | Medium | High |
| Separation Vocalization |
Safety & Reliability
| Trait | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Escape Artist | ||
| Dog Park Suitable | ||
| Off-Leash Reliable | ||
| Small Animal Safe | ||
| Leash Reactivity | ||
| Resource Guarding Risk | Low | Low |
English Setter Social Traits
Low
Low - generally excellent with other dogs and enjoy pack life. Same-sex aggression is rare.
Portuguese Water Dog Social Traits
Medium
Generally friendly with proper socialization
Training
English Setter
- They are 'soft' dogs - harsh corrections or yelling will cause them to shut down or become fearful
- Recall training must be proofed with high distractions - a long line is recommended until reliability is 100%
- Use high-value treats to compete with bird distractions
Portuguese Water Dog
- Use high-value treats and toys - 'Because it pays well' works better than 'Because I said so'
- Keep sessions varied and engaging - they get bored with repetition
- Channel mouthiness into retrieving games and teaching them to carry objects
English Setter Considerations
English Setters are intensely social 'velcro' dogs that bond deeply with their humans. Left alone for 8+ hours without conditioning or companionship, they frequently develop severe anxiety manifesting as destructive chewing, house soiling, and persistent howling.
Their predatory drive is all-consuming. On walks, they may become deaf to commands if they catch a scent or spot a bird. Off-leash reliability in unfenced areas is nearly impossible for the average owner.
Bored or under-exercised Setters are notorious for testing perimeter security. Their athleticism allows them to jump moderate fences, and digging instincts can compromise fence lines if they see prey on the other side.
Portuguese Water Dog Considerations
PWDs were bred to work on small fishing boats alongside their masters all day. They follow you into the bathroom and may develop severe separation anxiety if left alone 8+ hours. Prone to demand barking and whining if ignored.
As a retriever breed, they interact with the world through their mouths. PWD puppies are notoriously 'nippy' and oral—this is not aggression but can be painful and frightening for young children.
This breed is famous for dancing on hind legs and jumping up to greet faces. While charming to some, it's a significant fall risk for elderly owners or small children.
Professional grooming every 6-8 weeks at $100-150 is mandatory, not optional. Neglecting this leads to severe matting that damages skin and requires shave-down.
Multi-Species Compatibility
| Species | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| With Cats | Risky - while some can live with cats if raised together, the instinct to chase is hardwired. Generally not safe. | Generally safe if socialized - may chase running animals but usually stop when animal stops |
| Small Mammals | Caution required - rabbits and hamsters trigger the chase instinct. Supervision mandatory. | Caution - may try to chase and retrieve |
| Birds / Reptiles | Unsafe - birds are their ancestral prey. Will fixate on bird cages causing stress to both animals. | Not a livestock guardian - may try to herd or play with stock |
Advanced Behavior
| Trait | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Predatory Sequence Risk | Arrested | Arrested |
| Biddability | High | High |
| Noise Sensitivity | Low | Low |
| Territorial Barking | ||
| Same-Sex Aggression Onset | N/A | N/A |
English Setter: Predatory sequence is Orient -> Eye -> Stalk -> Chase -> Point. The 'Grab-Bite' and 'Kill-Bite' are usually inhibited, meaning they are less dangerous to prey than terriers, but the chase drive is just as strong. They want to please but are easily distracted by birds.
Portuguese Water Dog: Predatory sequence: Orient -> Eye -> Stalk -> Chase -> Grab-Bite. The Kill-Bite and Dissect phases are inhibited. This makes them generally safe with other dogs and often cats, though they may annoy them.
First Year & Life Stages
First Year Challenges
| Challenge | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Puppy Difficulty | ||
| Destructive Phase | 7-12 | 6-18 |
| House Training | Medium | Moderate |
| Crate Training | High | High |
| Adolescent Regression |
English Setter: Setter puppies combine high energy with a distractible hunting brain. House training can be slower than average (sensitive to surface textures). Very mouthy and prone to chewing furniture if bored. Around 8-10 months, they often 'forget' recall - this is when they're most likely to run off after a bird.
Portuguese Water Dog: PWD puppies are 'land sharks' - their retrieving instinct manifests as severe nipping and mouthing. Combined with high intelligence and energy, they require more management than a Golden Retriever (6/10) but less than a Malinois (9/10).
Life Stages Timeline
| Stage | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Puppy Phase | 12 months | 12 months |
| Adolescence | 12-24 | 12-36 |
| Adult Years | 2-8 | 3-9 |
| Senior Onset | ~9 years | ~9 years |
| Peak Energy Age | 1-3 years | 1-3 years |
Size & Physical Characteristics
Physical Stats
| Measurement | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Height | 61-69 cm | 43-57 cm |
| Weight | Not enough data yet | Not enough data yet |
| Size Category | Large | Medium |
| Lifespan | 11–13 years | 11–14 years |
| Litter Size | 6-8 | 4-8 |
English Setter Coat
Portuguese Water Dog Coat
Lineage & Origin
| Detail | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Original Purpose | Locating and setting (pointing) game birds on English moors for net and gun hunters | Fishing crew member - herding fish into nets, swimming messages between boats, retrieving broken nets and tackle |
| Origin | England, 15th-17th century | Portugal, coastal regions, centuries-old heritage |
Breeding Details
| Detail | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| C-Section Rate | Low | Low |
| Whelping Difficulty | Easy | Easy |
| Puppy Mortality Rate | Low | Low |
Physical Risks
| Risk | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Bloat / GDV Risk | High | Low |
| Slippery Floor Risk | Medium | Low |
| Min Fence Height | 1.5m | 1.5m |
| Dig / Escape Risk | Medium | Low |
Health & Common Conditions
English Setter Health Issues
Portuguese Water Dog Health Issues
English Setter Suggested Tests
- BAER (Brainstem Auditory Evoked Response) test for deafness
- Hip Evaluation (OFA or PennHIP)
- Thyroid Evaluation
- Elbow Evaluation
Portuguese Water Dog Suggested Tests
- prcd-PRA DNA test
- EOPRA DNA test
- JDCM DNA test
- GM-1 DNA test
- OFA Hip Evaluations (or PennHIP)
- Annual Eye Exams (CAER)
Health Risk Overview
| Risk Factor | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Cancer Risk | Medium | Low |
| Cardiac Risk | Low | Medium |
| Neurological Risk | Low | Low |
| CCL/ACL Tear Risk | Medium | Low |
| Vet Burden Tier | Medium | Medium |
Sensitivities & Allergies
| Sensitivity | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Skin Allergies | ||
| Environmental Allergies | ||
| Stomach Sensitivity | Low | Moderate |
| Food Allergies | Grain sensitivities possible |
Health Maintenance
| Care Item | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Nail Growth Rate | Normal | Normal |
| Eye Care Needs | Low | Medium |
| Anal Gland Issues | Rare | Rare |
Senior Care & Aging
English Setter Senior Care
Common Senior Issues
- Arthritis/joint stiffness
- Cancer (hemangiosarcoma, lymphoma)
- Hearing loss
- Mobility issues
Quality of life often remains good until late. Cancer and mobility issues are the common end-of-life factors. Some reach 14-15 years.
Portuguese Water Dog Senior Care
Common Senior Issues
- Arthritis/joint stiffness
- Cataracts/PRA progression
- Addison's Disease (can appear at any age)
- Hip dysplasia complications
Slow down significantly around 9+. Watch for clouding eyes (cataracts/PRA) and stiffness (arthritis).
Grooming & Care
English Setter
high maintenancePortuguese Water Dog
high maintenanceLifestyle Compatibility
English Setter Daily Life
Portuguese Water Dog Daily Life
Housing & Legal Restrictions
| Restriction | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| BSL Restricted | ||
| Common Rental Ban | ||
| Insurance Blacklist | ||
| Weight Category | Over 50lbs | 25-50lbs |
Climate Tolerance
| Climate | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Heat Tolerance | ||
| Cold Tolerance | ||
| Water Affinity | High | Extreme |
Travel Compatibility
| Activity | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Car Travel | Good | Excellent |
| Camping | ||
| Beach Friendly | ||
| Hiking Rating | ||
| Cabin Flight Eligible | ||
| Hotel Friendly Size |
Niche Suitability
| Role | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Service Dog | Low | Medium |
| Therapy Dog | Medium | High |
| Deep Pressure Therapy | ||
| Canicross / Bikejoring | ||
| Apartment Adaptable | ||
| Tactile / Sensory Friendly | ||
| Livestock Guardian | ||
| Medical Alert | Low | Medium |
Costs & Expenses
Upfront Costs
| Cost | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Purchase Price | $1,000-1,500 | $2,500-4,500 |
| Initial Cost Range | $1,300–$2,000 | $2,500–$4,500 |
| Cost Tier |
Ongoing Costs
| Cost | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Monthly Range | $180–$275 | $150–$300 |
| Yearly Range | $2,160–$3,300 | $2,500–$3,500 |
| Food / Month | $75-125 | $60-90 |
| Insurance / Month | $40-70 | $50-80 |
| Grooming / Session | $65-100 | $100-150 |
| Vet Routine / Year | $600-960 | $400-1,000 |
| Monthly Cost Tier |
English Setter Lifetime Cost
$25,000-45,000
Portuguese Water Dog Lifetime Cost
$30,000-50,000
Quirks & Fun Facts
Daily Quirks
| Quirk | English Setter | Portuguese Water Dog |
|---|---|---|
| Snoring | ||
| Flatulence | Rare | Rare |
| Slobber Level | Moderate | None |
| Smell When Wet | Strong | None |
| Zoomies Frequency | Daily | Daily |
| Counter Surfing | ||
| Digging Tendency | Medium | Low |
English Setter Quirks
Setter Sprawl
Famous for sleeping in bizarre, contorted positions on furniture
Water Dripper
Loose 'flews' (lips) that drip water after drinking and leave slime on your pants after a nudge
Velcro Attachment
Will follow you to the bathroom - they need to be integrated into family life, not left as backyard dogs
The Off Switch
Indoors, a well-exercised Setter is a 'rug dog' - calm, quiet, and happy to sleep. Not hyperactive pacers like some herding breeds.
Portuguese Water Dog Quirks
Counter Surfing Ninjas
Their intelligence and food motivation make them expert kitchen thieves - they can steal food with impressive stealth
The Portie Greeting
Famous for dancing on hind legs and jumping up to greet faces - can be a fall risk for elderly or children
The Talker
They 'talk' with grumbles, moans, and varied barks as common ways to communicate their needs
Water Obsession
Most will dive into any body of water including mud puddles and swimming pools
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