Irish Setter vs Old English Sheepdog
A side-by-side comparison to help you find the right breed for your lifestyle.
Irish Setter
The Irish Setter is a friendly and energetic breed known for its striking red coat and graceful, athletic build. Renowned for their intelligence and gentle temperament, these dogs make excellent family companions and excel in various canine sports and activities.
Large
High
11-15 years yrs
N/A cm
Old English Sheepdog
The Old English Sheepdog is a large, shaggy herding breed known for its distinctive shaggy double coat and gentle, playful disposition. Originally bred in England for driving cattle and sheep, this affectionate and intelligent breed is also a beloved family companion.
Extra Large
High
10-12 years yrs
56+ cm cm
Quick Comparison
| Trait | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Energy | ||
| Trainability | ||
| Grooming Needs | ||
| Family Friendly | ||
| Independence |
Key Characteristics
| Good with Kids | ||
| Good with Dogs | ||
| Good with Cats | ||
| Hypoallergenic | ||
| Apartment Friendly | ||
| First-Time Owner OK |
| Detail | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Size | Large | Extra Large |
| Energy Level | High | High |
| Grooming | High | High |
| Trainability | Moderate | challenging |
| Barking Level | Medium | High |
| Shedding Level | Medium | Low |
| Chew strength | Moderate | Moderate |
| Housing | Yard | Yard |
Owner Fit & Decision Guide
Owner Match
| Trait | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Experience Level | Beginner | Experienced |
| First-Time Owner | ||
| Ideal Owner | Active individual or family who can provide adequate exercise and training for a Irish Setter. | Active individual or family who can provide adequate exercise and training for a Old English Sheepdog. |
Irish Setter Dealbreakers
- Cannot meet 90-120 min daily exercise
- Cannot commit to grooming needs
Old English Sheepdog Dealbreakers
- Cannot meet 90-120 min daily exercise
- Cannot commit to grooming needs
Surrender Risk
| Factor | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Risk Level | Medium | Medium |
| Primary Reasons | Underestimated exercise needs, Behavioral challenges, Cost of care | Underestimated exercise needs, Behavioral challenges, Cost of care |
Temperament & Personality
Behavior Comparison
| Trait | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Prey Drive | ||
| Watchdog Ability | ||
| Stranger Friendly | ||
| Drool Level | ||
| Wanderlust |
Vocalization
| Trait | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Barking Level | Medium | High |
| Howling Tendency | ||
| Whining Tendency | Low | Low |
| Separation Vocalization |
Safety & Reliability
| Trait | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Escape Artist | ||
| Dog Park Suitable | ||
| Off-Leash Reliable | ||
| Small Animal Safe | ||
| Leash Reactivity | ||
| Resource Guarding Risk | Low | Low |
Irish Setter Social Traits
Low
Generally friendly
Old English Sheepdog Social Traits
Moderate
Generally friendly
Training
Irish Setter
- ** Positive reinforcement is essential. They work for engagement and fun, not just duty.
Old English Sheepdog
- Keep training sessions short and varied
Irish Setter Considerations
This is a "Velcro" breed in the truest sense. Irish Setters were bred to work in tandem with humans and possess a profound need for companionship. They do not tolerate isolation well. Left alone for standard workdays (8+ hours), they frequently develop destructive behaviors (chewing drywall, digging) and distress vocalization (howling/barking).
Irish Setters are notoriously slow to mature. While physically full-grown by 12-18 months, their mental maturity often lags until age 3 or 4. Owners must be prepared for a large, powerful dog that retains the impulse control and chaotic energy of a 4-month-old puppy for several years.
As a bird dog, their instinct to scan the horizon and chase is hardwired. They are generally not safe around birds, and their recall can vanish instantly if a visual trigger (squirrel, bird, leaf) activates their prey drive. This makes off-leash reliability in unfenced areas a significant challenge.
Old English Sheepdog Considerations
This is a "Velcro" breed in the truest sense. They were bred to work closely with shepherds and drovers, never straying far. In a modern home, this translates to a dog that may panic when left alone. Destructive chewing, howling, and house soiling are common symptoms of distress if isolation training is not started immediately in puppyhood.
The OES has a unique, ringing bark often described as "two pots clanging together." It is loud, deep, and can become a nuisance. They are alert watchdogs and will vocalize at delivery trucks, neighbors, and squirrels. This makes them poor candidates for apartments with noise restrictions.
As a drover's dog, the OES controls movement. In a family setting, this often manifests as nipping at the heels of running children or "body checking" people to move them. While not aggressive, this behavior can be frightening for toddlers and annoying for guests.
While generally social, some OES lines—particularly males—can develop aggression toward other dogs of the same sex around social maturity (18-24 months). This requires vigilant management in multi-dog households.
Multi-Species Compatibility
| Species | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| With Cats | Caution - may chase | Generally safe with proper introduction |
| Small Mammals | Supervision required | Supervision required |
| Birds / Reptiles | Caution advised | Caution advised |
Advanced Behavior
| Trait | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Predatory Sequence Risk | Medium | Medium |
| Biddability | Low | Low |
| Noise Sensitivity | Low | Low |
| Territorial Barking | ||
| Same-Sex Aggression Onset | 18 months | 18 months |
First Year & Life Stages
First Year Challenges
| Challenge | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Puppy Difficulty | ||
| Destructive Phase | 6-18 | 6-18 |
| House Training | Moderate | Moderate |
| Crate Training | Medium | Medium |
| Adolescent Regression |
Irish Setter: Irish Setter puppies require consistent training and patience.
Old English Sheepdog: Old English Sheepdog puppies require consistent training and patience.
Life Stages Timeline
| Stage | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Puppy Phase | 12 months | 12 months |
| Adolescence | 6-18 | 6-18 |
| Adult Years | 2-8 | 2-8 |
| Senior Onset | ~8 years | ~8 years |
| Peak Energy Age | 1-3 years | 1-3 years |
Size & Physical Characteristics
Physical Stats
| Measurement | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Height | N/A cm | 56+ cm cm |
| Weight | Not enough data yet | Not enough data yet |
| Size Category | Large | Extra Large |
| Lifespan | 11–15 years | 10–12 years |
| Litter Size | 4-8 | 4-8 |
Irish Setter Coat
Old English Sheepdog Coat
Lineage & Origin
| Detail | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Original Purpose | setting (crouching) game birds on the moors | massive, profuse coats that are nearly impossible for a pet owner to maintain without cutting |
| Origin | in Ireland in the 18th century | predators |
Breeding Details
| Detail | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| C-Section Rate | Varies | Varies |
| Whelping Difficulty | Medium | Medium |
| Puppy Mortality Rate | Low | Low |
Physical Risks
| Risk | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Bloat / GDV Risk | Low | Low |
| Slippery Floor Risk | Low | Low |
| Min Fence Height | 1.5m | 1.5m |
| Dig / Escape Risk | Low | Low |
Health & Common Conditions
Irish Setter Health Issues
Old English Sheepdog Health Issues
Irish Setter Suggested Tests
- CLAD (DNA)
- PRA (rcd1 & rcd4 DNA)
- OFA/PennHIP clearances for hips and thyroid
Old English Sheepdog Suggested Tests
- OFA/PennHIP certificates (Hip Dysplasia)
- DNA test for MDR1
- DNA test for PCD
- Annual CAER ophthalmologist exams (Hereditary Cataracts)
- Thyroid panel (Hypothyroidism)
Health Risk Overview
| Risk Factor | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Cancer Risk | Medium | Medium |
| Cardiac Risk | Low | Low |
| Neurological Risk | Low | Low |
| CCL/ACL Tear Risk | Low | Low |
| Vet Burden Tier | Medium | Medium |
Sensitivities & Allergies
| Sensitivity | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Skin Allergies | ||
| Environmental Allergies | ||
| Stomach Sensitivity | Low | Low |
| Food Allergies |
Health Maintenance
| Care Item | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Nail Growth Rate | Normal | Normal |
| Eye Care Needs | Low | Low |
| Anal Gland Issues | Occasional | Occasional |
Senior Care & Aging
Irish Setter Senior Care
Common Senior Issues
- Arthritis
- Vision decline
- Cognitive changes
Senior care varies by individual health.
Old English Sheepdog Senior Care
Common Senior Issues
- Arthritis
- Vision decline
- Cognitive changes
Senior care varies by individual health.
Grooming & Care
Irish Setter
high maintenanceOld English Sheepdog
high maintenanceLifestyle Compatibility
Irish Setter Daily Life
Old English Sheepdog Daily Life
Housing & Legal Restrictions
| Restriction | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| BSL Restricted | ||
| Common Rental Ban | ||
| Insurance Blacklist | ||
| Weight Category | Under 50lbs | Under 50lbs |
Climate Tolerance
| Climate | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Heat Tolerance | ||
| Cold Tolerance | ||
| Water Affinity | High | Medium |
Travel Compatibility
| Activity | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Car Travel | Good | Good |
| Camping | ||
| Beach Friendly | ||
| Hiking Rating | ||
| Cabin Flight Eligible | ||
| Hotel Friendly Size |
Niche Suitability
| Role | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Service Dog | Low | Low |
| Therapy Dog | Low | Low |
| Deep Pressure Therapy | ||
| Canicross / Bikejoring | ||
| Apartment Adaptable | ||
| Tactile / Sensory Friendly | ||
| Livestock Guardian | ||
| Medical Alert | Low | Low |
Costs & Expenses
Upfront Costs
| Cost | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Purchase Price | N/A | N/A |
| Initial Cost Range | $1,000–$2,500 | $1,000–$2,500 |
| Cost Tier |
Ongoing Costs
| Cost | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Monthly Range | $140–$220 | $100–$180 |
| Yearly Range | $1,680–$2,640 | $1,200–$2,160 |
| Food / Month | $80-120 | $70-120 |
| Insurance / Month | $60-100 | N/A |
| Grooming / Session | $70-100 | $100-150 |
| Vet Routine / Year | $300-600 | N/A |
| Monthly Cost Tier |
Irish Setter Lifetime Cost
N/A
Old English Sheepdog Lifetime Cost
N/A
Quirks & Fun Facts
Daily Quirks
| Quirk | Irish Setter | Old English Sheepdog |
|---|---|---|
| Snoring | ||
| Flatulence | Occasional | Occasional |
| Slobber Level | Low | Low |
| Smell When Wet | Moderate | Moderate |
| Zoomies Frequency | Occasional | Occasional |
| Counter Surfing | ||
| Digging Tendency | Low | Low |
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